Wednesday, September 16, 2009

Michael Sharp: Hockey Blogger Extraordinaire

For anyone with an interest in following the progress of Ottawa's prospects, and the Binghamton AHL team for which many of them play, Michael Sharp's blog, Sharp on Sens, is invaluable.

Here's a recap of his latest and greatest.

"We were the quickest team in the tournament" - new Bingo head coach Don Nachbaur's impressions of the rookie tournament in Kitchener.

"I thought all the drafted players, and the free agents that showed up, were outstanding," he said. "Had a tremendous show. I thought within the tournament our scouts did a really good job of assembling young talent, and we really utilized our speed. We were the quickest team in that tournament, and consequently, we were able to score some big numbers throughout the tournament.

"But names? Our young goaltender (Robin Lehner) was outstanding. Jimmy O'Brien was good. Condra had an excellent camp. (Keegan) Dansereau. I mean, we go through the list of guys -- I thought everybody had a real decent showing for themselves."


Lehner in 2010? - Binghamton General Manager Tim Murray talks about Robin Lehner.

"Obviously, he's committed and we've committed for him to go to (the OHL's Soo Greyhounds) this year, but we'll see the year he has in the Soo," Ottawa assistant GM Tim Murray said. "We'll see who we have coming back. As you know in the American League, there's a lot of one-year deals, and guys moving on to better opportunities, or perceived better opportunities. So, yeah, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that at 19-turning-20, he'd be playing in Binghamton."


Rookie Watch: Jim O'Brien - Binghamton General Manager Tim Murray talks about Jim O'Brien.

"He had a good tournament. Jimmy's biggest thing is consistency, I think, as any player. And strength. And early in the shift, he's really jumping and flying, and later on in the shift, you can see his strength and stamina and skating suffer a little bit. And I find that with most young players. He's got a good head on his shoulders. I think he can play both ends of the rink. He can shoot the puck. I think it's just a matter of, again, the grind. Him moving to Seattle (in the WHL) two years ago from (the University of) Minnesota I think will really help that area of it. I think he's grown up a lot, and he wants to be a player. So, he'll have an opportunity to play with good players down there, and we'll just see what he does."


Kaspars Daugavins Update - recovering from offseason shoulder surgery and almost ready for contact.

Monday, September 14, 2009

THN: Video Report on Erik Karlsson

Ted Cooper of The Hockey News has an interview and video report with Senators prospect Erik Karlsson.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/27827-VIDEO-Rookie-blueliner-Karlsson-poised-to-make-his-mark-in-Ottawa.html

Senators Reduce Training Camp Roster by Nine Players

OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - Sept. 14, 2009) - The Ottawa Senators reduced today their training camp roster by nine players.

All nine were assigned to attend the club's American Hockey League's Binghamton Senators' training camp, which opens Wednesday, Sept. 16, at Binghamton's Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena.

The group includes four defencemen: Paul Baier, Mat Robinson, Craig Schira and Kyle Wharton; and five forwards: Jason Bailey (RW), Keegan Dansereau (LW), Kaspars Daugavins (RW), Matt Lowry (RW) and Brandon Svendsen (RW).

The Senators camp roster is now comprised of 46 players: six goaltenders, 12 defencemen and 28 forwards.

Friday, September 4, 2009

Senators Rookie Tournament Roster Announced

The Ottawa Senators have announced the roster for this year's rookie tournament to be held in Kitchener from the 7th to 10th of September.

Goaltenders:
Shane Connelly (Wisconsin - WCHA)
Robin Lehner (Frolunda Jr. - Sweden)

Defencemen:
Paul Baier (Portland - AHL)
Collin Bowman (Kelowna - WHL)
Erik Karlsson (Frolunda HC, Boras HC - Sweden)
Geoff Kinrade (Michigan Tech - WCHA, Norfolk - AHL, Tampa Bay - NHL)
Mat Robinson (Las Vegas - ECHL, Alaska-Anchorage - WCHA)
Craig Schira (Vancouver - WHL)
Kyle Wharton (Johnstown - ECHL, Syracuse - AHL)

Forwards:
Jason Bailey (Bakersfiled - ECHL)
Erik Condra (Notre Dame - CCHA)
Keegan Dansereau (Swift Current - WHL)
Kaspars Daugavins (Binghamton - AHL, Mississauga - OHL)
Jordan Hale (Brandon - WHL)
Michael Hoffman (Drummondville - QMJHL)
Casey Lee (U. of Saskatchewan - CWUAA)
Matt Lowry (Brandon - WHL)
Jim O’Brien (Seattle - WHL, Binghamton - AHL)
Brett Parnham (Oshawa - OHL, Rochester - AHL)
Peter Regin (Binghamton - AHL, Ottawa - NHL)
Zack Smith (Binghamton - AHL, Ottawa - NHL)
Brandon Svendsen (Idaho - ECHL, Bowling Green - CCHA)

The tournament is a round-robin between rookie teams representing the Toronto Maple Leafs, Boston Bruins, and Pittsburgh Penguins. Check the link for Kitchener game schedules and pre-tournament Sensplex open practice schedules.

Thursday, August 27, 2009

Not Your Typical Prospect

Peter R. over at SilverSeven has an interesting post about Jeremy Yablonski. He was originally signed to an AHL deal for this season but the team tore it up and signed him to a 2-way deal, and AGM Tim Murray had this to say.

"Well, we're going to give him an opportunity for sure," Murray said. "We had contract space. You're allowed 50 NHL contracts, (so) we had contract space. I think he's done everything we've asked him to do the two previous years down there. He's been a great teammate. He's fought for his teammates. He's been very professional about it. He fights for the right reasons, and he's certainly not an idiot the way some of those big guys can be. He's been great, so I guess as a bit of a reward -- it gives him the opportunity to come to camp and earn a job, rather than just come to camp and get sent down right away. And it gets it (done), we don't have to do (the contract) in camp if he plays well in camp. And it doesn't give another team an opportunity to give him an NHL deal. So I think it was good for him and good for us.

He's not going to see much if any icetime but his is an interesting story line to follow. Very much the antithesis of Dany Heatley and his me-first attitude.

Wednesday, August 5, 2009

Top 10 Prospect Stories to Watch in 2009-10

10) Poor Man's Chris Neil

Cody Bass has some of the same skills as (too) highly paid Chris Neil, a little less heavyweight pedigree, less offensive flair (possibly the first time Chris Neil and flair have been used in the same sentence) and much better defensive play. Bass's skills project into a very good depth player, the type of bottom 6 player that exhibits heart, tough defense and sacrifice to energize his team and frustrate the opposition. The question is, do the Senators have any room for him? With 3 bottom six forwards making good money (Kelly, Neil, Ruutu) and as many as 7 other forwards who might play on the 3rd or 4th lines (Mike Fisher, Nick Foligno, Ryan Shannon, Shean Donovan, Peter Regin, Jesse Winchester, Zack Smith) there doesn't appear to be much opportunity for Bass this season. Bass might need to wait for trades, injuries or roster losses next off-season for a real shot at the role he looked so effective at during his late-season audition in 2007-08, during which he was one of the team's better players in their 4 game playoff sweep by the Penguins.

9) Power Forward?

Zack Smith was the final cut from the Senators in the fall of 2009 and is expected to push for a spot in the lineup again this year, but he faces the same bottom 6 congestion that Cody Bass does. The difference is that Smith has a modest chance of passing through the bottom 6 and eventually establishing himself as a 2nd line player, playing a power game. He's gritty enough, big enough, fast enough and talented enough to project as that 2nd line power guy, but to do so he needs to continue to improve most aspects of his game. The question is, which challenge will he earn the right to face? Will he be trying to dominate the AHL or earn minutes among a plethora of depth players on the big club? For his development, I hope he spends one more season in the AHL and forces the Sens to make room for him on the big club in the future.

8) Go East Young Man

Jim O'Brien is remarkably similar in some ways to Zack Smith. He's a year younger, and a bit faster and a bit more of a shooter, but perhaps a little less gritty, although that could just be age. O'Brien projects to the same role as Smith, and has the character attributes to justify the projection, but faces the same long-term challenges. In the short term, O'Brien will be attending his first camp as a professional and while he'll probably play the season in Binghampton, he needs to show more than his recent modest incremental improvement to continue to justify his first round selection in 2007. But taking a step back from the immediate challenge, sometimes slow and steady wins the race.

7) Russian Roulette

Ilya Zubov is at a critical juncture in his career. He has one more year under contract and should be pushing to establish himself as a bona fide NHLer. It's not that the organization would give up on his development in Binghampton after next season, but it would be hard to imagine him signing another 2-way contract when the KHL beckons. And the Senators have a policy against paying NHL contract dollars to players on the AHL roster. So if he hasn't established himself then he'll most likely leave. By the end of the season we should know with reasonable certainty in which league he'll play for the next few years. But we'll have strong indications ahead of time, including how well Zubov produces in training camp in September. If he's given little or no time playing with top 6 forwards, or performs poorly in general then the writing will be on the wall, in pencil.

6) Poor Man's Zetterberg

Peter Regin has a mature game at both ends and had an excellent debut in the AHL last season. He may push for a spot in the bottom six in Ottawa this year, or establish himself as the offensive leader in Binghampton. If he can establish himself as the first call-up from the farm team and get 20+ games in Ottawa then it will be a solid season, but depending on possible trade returns for Dany Heatley, and any associated trades dictated by salary cap considerations, Regin could conceivably establish himself as one of the bottom 6 forwards that slides into the top 6 as circumstances warrant.

5) Havlat Returns

Patrick Wiercioch is the last remaining return from the Martin Havlat trade, drafted with Chicago's second round pick in the 2008 draft. As such, he represents that last chance for Ottawa to regain some ground in a trade that returned 2 non-NHLers and one season of waiver-fodder Tom Preissing. Despite that heavy burden, Wiercioch has impressed the organization with his freshman season in college and received an invite to the Canadian 2009 WJC selection camp in late 2008. He's been invited back for the August training camp this year and has a more realistic shot of making the team than he did last year. The interesting story lines this season are the WJC selections and what role Wiercioch might earn on that team, and whether he experiences a sophomore slump in college, or continues to establish himself as one of the top college D-men.

4) Backup or Injury Replacement

Brian Elliott signed a very attractive two-year deal (cap hit $850K/yr.) as a backup for projected #1 Pascal Leclaire. Given Elliott's solid debut as a fill-in starter in 2008-09, and Leclaire's injury history, we may see more of Elliott than expected. Any even if Leclaire is healthy, he may find himself pushed for the starting job, more likely in 2010-11 than the season upcoming.

3) Towering, But No Pillar (or Pilar)

Jared Cowen, a large and (once and future) mobile defenseman, could be the first round steal of 2009 draft. Players who fall due to short-term injury issues have a chance to demonstrate that injury doesn't eliminate potential. Cowen was originally projected to go in the top 5, and has the size, speed, talent, and makeup to be a very good player for a long time. But for him, this season will be about re-establishing himself and validating the Senators faith in picking him at #9. He should be very close to 100% by the end of summer and faces two big challenges. First he'll participate in the Canadian WJC training camp in August, and is expected to be receive plenty of consideration as an integral part of the 2010 WJC team. Cowen will also attend the Senators training camp in September, which will provide an excellent opportunity to measure him against NHL players, and for him to truly grasp the scope of the challenge in front of him. In all likelihood, he'll play this season back in the WHL and press for a spot on the Senators blueline in 2010-11.

2) Third Time's The Charm?

Each of Brian Lee's last three seasons has been one step back, two steps forward. His first training camp with the Senators in 2007 resulted in being sent down to Bingo, and a brief but impressive call-up at the end of the season. In 2008, new coach Craig Hartsburg demonstrated no confidence in the young blueliner and Lee was sent down to Bingo early in the season, where he underperformed. Slowly but surely, Lee clawed his way back up the depth chart and demonstrated that when playing with competent partners, he was a positive addition to the NHL roster. The challenge he faces this year is to impress in training camp and solidify a spot in the top 4, at least the even-strength top 4. Each of the last three season's Lee has gained strength and weight in the summer. Perhaps his slow starts have reflected adjustments to his new body, and the new playing styles he is now capable of. Regardless, if Lee can continue to take notes from the Jason Smith school of gritty hockey then he'll be well on his way to earning an everyday role with decent minutes.

1) How Swede It Is

Erik Karlsson is the most offensively skilled defense prospect this team has ever had. He had a solid but unspectacular season in the SEL last season. This year he'll be pushing for a role on the Senators blueline. While it's not likely he'll establish himself there this season, he'll get the opportunity and if he impresses in camp he'll jump ahead of more established D-men. With Karlsson there are two big questions, will he make the team, and where will he play if he doesn't? A season in the AHL would be valuable, but so would another season in the SEL, playing in a skill-focused league, and with more responsibility than he had last season.

Friday, July 17, 2009

Outlook: Ilya Zubov

This is an intriguing one. Zubov has put in two years in the AHL, showing steady improvement. He got 10 games with the big club last year, and he's a known quantity for the coach of the big team, which should provide him some encouragement to push for the next level.

The downside of the current situation is that Zubov trailed off at the end of the season in Bingo, and didn't exactly distinguish himself during his 10 games in Ottawa. He wasn't bad, he was just unnoticeable, which is bad for a forward looking to eventually break into the Top 6.

The final two pros/cons are more recent developments. Zubov elected to go back to Russia for the summer, which has lead to speculation that he will not embrace an aggressive conditioning program like the one he participated in during the summer of 08 in Ottawa. More recently, Ottawa signed Alex Kovalev. It is hard to say exactly what impact having a respected elder Russian forward on the team will have, but it certainly should help dispel any lingering feeling that the team doesn't like Russians.

Finally, I've heard speculation that Zubov might just stay in Russia and sign with a KHL team, but he signed a 3-year ELC with Ottawa in 2007 and owes the team one more year. They could loan him to the KHL, but I don't think Zubov can play there without the Senators permission. They may have made private assurances about whether and when they might provide that permission, and we wouldn't know until it happens, but if the team thinks he's close (and they've said as much) then I doubt they'd release him to play in the KHL unless they either retain the right to bring him back next year (an out in his KHL contract) or they're giving up on him (unlikely).

Given the uncertainty about where he's going to play, and his conditioning level and attitude, I'm not willing to hazard a guess as to what his production might look like. I will say that this year is crucial in his ability to establish himself as a player, regardless of where he plays. He either needs to make the AHL look like he's outgrown it, establish himself in the NHL, or show he's a very good player in a good skilled pro league like the KHL.

Tuesday, July 14, 2009

Interview with Robin Lehner

SilverSeven has an interesting interview with Robin Lehner, the Swedish goalie taken with one of Ottawa's second round picks in the 2009 draft.

I was very happy to get picked by Ottawa and even happier now when I was there. It's a great organization and they all are very good at what they do and they helped me very much at the camp. I was happy to get picked in the 2nd round, and I didn't think I would go before that.

Friday, July 3, 2009

Development Camp Report

(reprinted from HockeyBroads.com)

I spent a couple hours at the Sensplex this morning. The prospects were split up into black and white squads. I caught both groups doing skating drills for the first hour. They were wearing elastic bands from the heels of their skates to their waists. I'd never seen that before. I guess it's to encourage them to keep low, and to provide resistance training for full extension during skating strides.

The second hour was mostly competitive drills ending in shooting opportunities. There were some pass-pass-pass-breakin drills, 2-on-2, 1-on-1, and finally a short breakaway competition.

Here are my observations, and I apologize for the disorder. I took notes whenever I could but I was trying to watch as much as I could, and I had a buddy to serve as a second pair of eyes, which also meant discussion to distract from the proceedings.

Peter Regin - Precise skater. Used by coaches to lead off drills and set good example. Skates barely leave the ice (as requested by the coaches). His speed was evident in comparison to most other prospects. Very smooth in motion and puck-handling.

Jim O'Brien - Looks small, but in a good way. The coaches were preaching getting low, he was LOW. He was so low that the elastics were dangling behind him and he sliced it during crossovers. His stance gave him a compact, powerful and explosive appearance. He executed the drills with particular intensity. He demonstrated a good wrist shot on a few scoring drills. His background as a D-man shows. He was effortless in defending 1-on-1 against some of the slicker offensive talents. I took note of the fact that he was the player asking the session coach questions as they left the ice, and he was also the friendliest with the kids waiting to bump fists with the players who as they left the skating drill rink. He was also one of the last guys to leave the ice after the competitive drills. Good character. He seems to really want it. At the NHL level I think he'll be a slightly larger Chris Kelly, with better hands. In other words, a very useful and versatile player.

Patrick Wiercioch - He does look large, but he also looks a little slow. He made some questionable plays during 2-on-2 coverage. Reaching around a guy on the up-ice side, leaving the guy an open path to the net. Maybe his head just wasn't in it. What I saw raised more questions than anything else.

Mike Sdao - Moves very well for a big guy. Good positioning against this level of competition. Suitably aggressive against the boards.

Cody Bass - Was the best skater in his group. Focused and competitive. He was banging guys, not to the point of injury, but raising the overall intensity. Perhaps taking on a leadership role in this group, appropriate for a guy of his experience. Additional comments in shootout section below.

Andre Petersson - This is the tale of two players. The first player was the one I saw during the skating drills. He looked slow and disinterested. He actually cut loops out of his skating drills, finishing ahead of others while skating slower. He looked sloppy. His crossovers were very high. His lines were poor. He looked lazy. The second player showed up for the competitive drills. He was faster and more intense during the shooting drills and the 2-on-2. The 2-on-2 had 2 attackers and 2 defenders (+goalie) and the attackers kept circling back and getting another puck and more chances to penetrate and score. He and Karlsson had a nice physical battle going on throughout the couple minutes they were matched up. Crosschecks to the back of the head. Reaching over the head and pulling the back of a guys collar down to the ice. General rough-housing. He showed a good shot and fair intensity. Still not one of the faster skaters though.

Erik Karlsson - One of the best skaters on the ice. Looks larger than expected. He looked completely average in this group. Much larger than the Caporussos or midgets like Brisebois, and just one or two sizes down from the really big guys. His passes were crisp. His skating was smooth. His coverage was solid. He showed some good intensity when required, and laid a guy into the boards when he got a chance.

Craig Schira - Not a big guy, but not small either. Observed him as the static guy passing to guys in motion during skate and shoot drills. His passes were CRISP. Also saw him show good positioning and 1-on-1 coverage.

Jakob Silfverberg - Missed most of his drills (as frequently happens at these things) but did manage to catch some very nice goals. Seems to have a strong wrist shot.

Mike Hoffman - Has a nose for the net. In position for dirty goals. Possesses a very hard and accurate wrist shot. He had a couple of goals from the slot where the goalie saw him coming the whole way. Nothing tricky. No screen. Just snap - goal. Moves very well. I don't know if there is any substance to the supposed 'character issues' but he seems like the type of prospect that has the tools to be a Top 6 guy. Speedy, slick, average size, nose for the net and a good shot. What's not to like?

Erik Gryba - The best 1-on-1 defender on the ice. Big, good positioning, and punishing when appropriate.

Ben Blood - The only thing I noticed was that his skating seems to be pretty stiff. He doesn't seem to fit in that well.


Shootout - After the competitive drills, two skaters (I think) from each team did shootouts against the opposing goalie. We found out after that the losing team would have to do pushups. I don't think either of the first guys scored. But Petersson scored a very slick goal for the Whites. And then it was Karlsson for the Blacks to tie it up. He had some good moves but the goalie shut the door and he missed. Black lost the competition.

Karlsson was swarmed by Petersson and Regin (both Whites) with fake high-5s and congratulations. Meanwhile his teammates were doing their pushups. Then Karlsson finally got to centre ice, dropped down and started his pushups. Bass, also Black Team, finished, got up, skated over to Karlsson and put pressed his stick against Karlsson's bum for some extra resistance. Big grins all around. They seemed like they were having fun.

Random Thoughts: Caporusso doesn't seem tiny, just a little small, and showed a decent shot. Brisebois is tiny, but had a sustained battle with a big guy in the corners and came out with the puck. Lehner is huge, and looked pretty good. My buddy thought he might have a weak glove hand though.


Awards: (my opinions)

The Men Among Boys Award: (Tie) Peter Regin and Cody Bass

The Hardest Worker Award: Jim O'Brien with an Honourable Mention for Cody Bass

The Best Shot Award: Mike Hoffman

The Best Skater Award: (tie) Erik Karlsson and Cody Bass

The Brick Wall Award (hardest to get through): Erik Gryba

The Clutch Passing Award: Erik Karlsson with an Honourable Mention to Craig Schira

More discussion available here.

Thursday, June 4, 2009

Sean Keogh's Top 20 OHL Players for the 2009 NHL Entry Draft

2009 Top 20 OHL Prospects
by Sean Keogh

I promised Brock (Ed: Brock Otten at ohlprospects.blogspot.com) that I would submit my own attempt at an OHL-based draft preview, and the fulfillment of such a promise is what follows. However I would like to be clear that that my viewings of some Western conference teams were limited. As a result I have to admit that on a couple of players near the end of my list, part of the basis for my evaluation of them comes from second party information, particularly Brock himself.

To further preface this piece, it is important to note that my approach was to try and offer my perspective on the skills, styles and potential of the players. This blog being the resource that it is already has much of the statistical information about these players, everything from position to vitals to point production. Therefore I felt that in order to allow for more complete and substantive commentary on each player, I did not include much of that. Moreover, my intent was not so much to provide a fixed ranking of players, and certainly not to predict the order in which these players will go, because at points I feel some players are almost interchangeable, and at other points there are drop-offs.

1) John Tavares

I will readily admit that I am in the camp with those who have concerns about John Tavares’ ability to be a true impact player at the next level. His scoring ability and hockey sense need no description or introduction, and there is little reason to doubt he will put up points at the next level. However, I have concerns about his skating, his ability to produce off the rush and his potential to develop an all-round game. Certainly watching Dany Heatley in Ottawa, there are significant similarities between the two, and no team would turn down the kind of production a player like Heatley gives the Senators year after year. However Heatley is not a well-rounded scorer or a true creator and I wonder if Tavares will struggle in that way as well. A question I come back to as well is whether Tavares is better suited to the wing than center as an NHLer. If my evaluation of his skill set and the style of play I think he will play at the next level is fair, that Tavares is more of a natural finisher and less a dominant puck-carrier, he is better suited on the wing. On the other hand, if Tavares sticks as a center, he will need to be more of a distributor and creator to be effective down the middle, which also means being a more assertive player in all three zones. All of that is not to be taken as a criticism of Tavares himself. I personally do not buy a lot into the questions of his character because of a lacklustre playoff performance, rather I simply see his skill set as being limited in some ways, but he is certainly worthy of the high praise and hype he has received.

2) Matt Duchene

Many of those who focus on the flaws of Tavares seem to, almost as an equal and opposite reaction, promote the strengths and assets of Matt Duchene, and there is little doubt that Duchene’s rising stock is at least partially tied to the question marks attaching themselves to Tavares. In my case however, I am not leading the Duchene fan club either, though I certainly like him as a player. I do not doubt he is legitimately worthy of being a top five pick this year. He has a wide range of skills, including impressive all-round skating ability, good offensive ability and a mature awareness in all three zones. That being said, I am not quite as enthusiastic about his top end potential as some. Every two-way OHL center projected to go in the top five of the draft is inevitably compared to Steve Yzerman or perhaps Joe Sakic, and Duchene is no different. For me I see some Stephen Weiss is Duchene though, a good all-round player who was an Yzerman-type player in the OHL, but I never felt was a truly dynamic offensive prospect. I see a lot of Duchene in Weiss, who is a good young NHL player, but not capable of impacting the game the way his more-maligned but also more highly touted 2001 draft-mate Jason Spezza can in the NHL. Obviously I see no reason to doubt that Duchene will be a very good player, nor does anybody else. However, I can not rank him ahead of Tavares without being sold on him as a potential all-star level scorer.

3) Ryan Ellis

To say Ryan Ellis’ last twelve months of hockey have been amazing would still not do his accomplishments justice. Everything he has touched has turned to Gold, both for him and his team. It is also a good time to be a dynamic offensive defenceman, thanks in large part to the Mike Green factor, a most common comparison for and potential justification of the selection of Ellis. One can be nearly certain that Green’s name will come up in TSN’s instant analysis after Ellis is drafted in Montreal. Offensively-speaking, Ellis has almost all of the tools. He is a good skater, outstanding puck-handler, smooth passer and has an impressively lethal shot from the point, perfectly complemented by off the charts instincts. However, the disagreement on Ellis stems from concerns about his size and defensive play. I have to admit I have mixed feelings about such concerns. On the one hand he is a small player, and does not really play much larger than his size. He does not compensate for a lack of size with outstanding lower body strength or a great sense of timing physically. While that could come with time and work, it will be no easy task for Ellis to turn himself in to a well-rounded rearguard. I am not convinced he will ever be more than a powerplay quarterback and offensive specialist; however, it is possible he goes in the top ten if a team is convinced he will be.

4) Calvin de Haan

It is somewhat curious to me that de Haan has not firmly found a place as a project first round pick by this point in the year. After his performance after Tavares and Del Zotto left Oshawa, and particularly his strong turn at the U18s, I see plenty of reason to move him in to the back half of the first round. The natural, inescapable comparison for de Haan as an undersized offensive blueliner is to the aforementioned Ellis, but I see them differently. De Haan is not as dynamic or as pure an offensive player as Ellis, and therefore his impact upside is lesser as well. However I believe strongly in his all-round awareness, patience and poise, and believe that he has better and safer pick to be a complete defenceman. His size is a limiting factor, and no doubt it will take de Haan some time to upgrade his strength, but the big steps he has taken over the last year give me reason to believe he has room to improve in that area. Although de Haan’s upside is not as an impact player, and he is not going to be compared to Mike Green, I do think he has the potential to be a solid puck-moving rearguard for a long time, and with the premium placed on such players, I would have no hesitations selecting him in last third of the first round. If Brock did not also have him at fourth, I might wonder if my Ottawa-area bias was getting in the way of things, but obviously that is not the only reason to be high on de Haan.

5) Peter Holland

My list deviates from Brock’s at this point, and it appears Hockey Canada and I have different views as well on Peter Holland. At mid-season having Holland ahead of Kadri and Kassian would have been an easier sell, but I will do my best to explain my view at this point. It is true that Holland so far OHLer has been something of an enigma in the OHL, at times passive, and other times very impressive, but certainly if nothing else inconsistent. While I do not dispute that Holland had a weak second half and can at times play a quiet perimeter game, I also see a lot in his tool box that I like. For one thing his combination of height and skating is noteworthy, and he moves with and without the puck with coordination and ease. I also like his hands, vision, offensive potential and all-round hockey sense. Where some see passive, indifferent play, I also see an intelligent young player who thinks on the ice. Over-thinking the game can cause inconsistency for many young players, and I suspect that relates well to Holland. I will not go as far as to say he has the kind of upside Jeff Carter has displayed, but I think they have similar skill sets and for that reason have Holland ahead of the next three forwards.

6) Nazem Kadri

It would seem as though ripping on Nazem Kadri has become something of a fad in recent months. Dating back to last season Kadri has been highly touted for this year’s draft, but he has seen his stock fall in the second half for a variety of reasons and in spite of an impressive playoff performance. Personally my concerns about Kadri are not related to his character or perceived selfish play, but rather the same questions Brock has addressed regarding his offensive upside. While Kadri has fancy moves and the occasional electrifying rush, those are not likely to work at the NHL level, and I am not convinced either that his offensive skills, specifically his hockey sense, will make him a consistent scorer at the next level. I actually see a fair bit of grit and effort in his game, and believe he could be a good role player at the next level, even a tweener second/third line type of guy, much like Antoine Vermette. For that reason I would not have him as a top ten pick, and would hesitate to take him over guys with more definite upside, but I would start looking at him around the middle of the first round, even if I can see how some might feel differently.

7) Ethan Werek

Joining de Haan on this list as an OHL rookie is Werek, a well-rounded forward with underrated upside. What I like about Werek is he has a versatile skill set. He can play center or wing, power or finesse, playmaker or finisher, although he is a master of none. In Kingston he performed better on the wing and I think his true potential is as a complete complimentary winger on a scoring line, kind of as a cross between Chris Kunitz and Mike Knuble. Werek’s skating is definitely his weakness, but I like his stride and see room for improvement. He is capable of making plays with the puck and on the rush; he simply needs to work on his acceleration, which is not surprising for a player who is one year removed from Junior A. While he is not flashy like Kadri or powerful like Kassian or smooth like Holland, I like his all-round combination and the fact he has a lot of elements in his game and was productive at the OHL level on a garbage team and at the U18s in a different style of game.

8) Zack Kassian

I appreciate that slotting Kassian here is likely the hardest ranking to justify. To some he is the third best available OHLer after the obvious two, and to those who value power forward prospects highly he is an exciting young player. Part of the reason I rank him here is because I do not fall in to the latter group. There is no doubt that Kassian has NHL size and strength, and that he has the potential to play a power game on more than a fourth line. He goes to the net, cycles the puck well and has some finish. However, I have serious concerns with not only his skating but his ability to create offence with the puck and on the fly. At the U18s, when the pace was quicker, the opponent more talented than the OHL, he seemed to have very little utility offensively other than as a big body down low. In the NHL, this would limit the number of systems where he could really have an impact. Now that is certainly not a useless skill, and Hall of Famers have made careers out of being exceptional in that area, but it is the reason I have Kassian behind the three forwards ahead of him, although any reconfiguration of them can be solidly justified in my opinion.

9) Ryan O’Reilly

It must be said that Ryan O’Reilly won me over at the U18s. Previously I saw a player with average size and talent and below average skating, but his intangibles shone through clearly to me at the tournament. There is little O’Reilly is not able or at least willing to do on the ice. He can score, hit, play defence, win faceoffs, kill penalties and in general play in almost any situation. At the next level, I do not see big offensive potential, but would be surprised if he does not make the NHL in some capacity. The limiting factor with O’Reilly is his skating. Not only is he not that quick, but his stride is technically weak, leaving him without much room to improve his power, acceleration, balance or agility. At the OHL and U18 level he can keep up, but it would take a lot of work to get his skating to the level where he can unlock any greater potential he may have. The natural counter-argument is that a guy like Mike Richards kind of did just that, improving his once average OHL skating and below average mechanics enough to make him a great NHL player with deceptive speed, but that is far, far easier said than done. I would not be shocked if O’Reilly slips in to the first round, but he is best suited as an early second rounder in my opinion.

10) Alex Hutchings

The only other player I firmly believe is worthy of a top two round selecting is Hutchings, the underrated and undersized Barrie forward. My confidence in Hutchings comes from the fact I like his skating for a smaller player. No doubt he is a good offensive player who buzzes around and is willing to go in to the tough areas despite limited size. However, every year there are several undersized forwards available for the draft from all different junior leagues and only a few separate themselves from the rest. What Hutchings has going for him is a good low drive, and a stride and puck-carrying style that allows him to use his lower center of gravity nicely. This kind of allows him to bump off defenders instead of shying away from them, an important asset for an undersized player without elite offensive skills. That does not mean that Hutchings can or will be able to necessarily play that game at the next level, that will require continued focus on adding strength and power to his frame, but I like his chances if he can do that.

11) Edward Pasquale

This is the first player I will have to admit I do not have a well-developed view of, and by extension not a prospect I have a strong opinion on. What I do know is that Pasquale is a big, technical goaltender who makes the saves he needs to but lacks the athleticism to make a lot of saves he should not. He is coming off a very strong year on an average team, and the fact he has already achieved success at the OHL level is an important step for a young goalie. Between his size, maturity and solid technical skills, he is a good goalie prospect in a draft weak at that position, so it is entirely possible he is the first tender taken in Montreal. Whether he has significant upside as a starting goaltender is the question that teams will have in deciding just how high they take him.

12) Taylor Doherty

I noted above that personally I do not have the common preference for power forwards, and the same would be true for jumbo-sized blueliners. Case in point, it already looks like I underestimated Tyler Myers last year. Although Taylor Doherty is not Myers, and he is not a first round prospect at this point, I do actually like him as a prospect. Playing on the same bad team as Werek in Kingston, Doherty had an up and down season, but the tools are unmistakable. He is extremely tall and has room to fill out, and has some good skating ability for a player his size. Laterally he struggles, but straight line he moves fairly well, which suggests that there is room for improvement in his skating in all directions. While he does not handle the puck like a grenade, he really does not have much offensive skill to speak of, which is why I like him to an extent. He projects very simply as a stay-at-home guy at the next level, and he could be a good one with some patience and refinement. I am surprised he is ranked as low as he is by Central Scouting to be honest.

13) Matt Clark

Matt Clark is an interesting case of a player who has simply kept improving since being drafted in to the OHL. A late round pick in to the OHL, and a late birthday in 1990 who narrowly missed being eligible last year, Clark was an 18 year old OHL rookie this year. That his draft stock steadily rose throughout the year is a testament to how well he played for Brampton. What Clark has going for him is size and mobility. At 6’3” and over 200lbs, he can handle big forwards, and his mobility allows him to cope with quicker ones as well. Clark also has some offensive skills and a willingness to jump in to the play at times, which suggests he has some all-round potential. In his own zone though, he needs some work with positioning and general awareness, as he can get caught scrambling at times. I am also not quite sure what kind of blueliner he projects to be at the next level. Although he has some interesting tools, I am not sure exactly what his niche will be because he is not particularly gifted offensively and is not overly refined defensively. Whereas a team picking Doherty knows exactly the kind of prospect they are working with, I am not so sure Clark is the same way.

14) Scott Stajcer

It has become fairly common for a handful of OHL goalies to be taken in the first three rounds each year, and Scott Stajcer is a decent bet to do the same. Unheralded coming in to the season, Stajcer managed to wrestle the starting job away from Tyler Beskowranny, an impressive feat considering the talent level of the Dallas Stars second rounder from 2008. Style-wise Stajcer is a bit more raw than Pasquale, showing similar size and a bit more athleticism, but also more inconsistency, which is a challenge in evaluating goalies. It is certainly not unusual, and perhaps even quite natural, for first or second year junior players to struggle with their consistency. However, what often separates the good goalies from the bad, the Steve Masons from the Craig Hilliers, is improving or outgrowing that consistency. An NHL team who was able to see more of Owen Sound may be convinced it was really simply the predictable ups and downs of a player in his first complete OHL season, and for that reason I would not be surprised in the least if Stajcer went fairly high.

15) Michael Latta

I would say that Michael Latta was a favourite of mine coming in to this year, and to an extent that is still the case. As a 16 year old he flashed nifty dangles and some nice grit, and early this year seemed to take a major step forward offensively. Not knowing the reasons for his surprising trade from Ottawa, I am not docking him on those grounds, but my doubts about Latta have grown as I have focussed increasingly on his skating. While he has nice moves and some offensive potential, he too often has to make extra moves or throw away the puck because his skating does not allow him to gain separation or create space. He cycles well, goes to the net and plays with some grit, but his size does not project as a true banger at the next level. His skating is not doomed by awful technique, so the potential for improved power and acceleration is there, and if he does that his NHL potential increases dramatically. There is some offence and some grit there, and while he will never impose physically, he has a solid stocky build and I would say his size is decent. I would consider him as a late second rounder, and think he would be a good third round pick for any team.

16) Jesse Blacker

I saw Windsor play several times this year, probably the most of any team other than Ottawa, and I still feel I do not have a great sense of what Jesse Blacker is capable of. Part of the reason for that is certainly the fact that after the trade deadline he was probably the sixth blueliner on the eventual Memorial Cup champions. In fact I found myself looking for him at times for just that reason. What I saw was a decently sized blueliner with nice skating ability and solid defensive positioning. Occasionally he showed some puck-rushing ability, but overall his offensive instincts, and in fact his involvement offensively in general, was average. In his own zone Blacker seemed to be fairly solid for a young blueliner, and I thought he improved as the season went along. Perhaps an important question is what role Blacker will play going forward with Windsor. Although Kwiet and Shutron will certainly graduate, with Ellis, Cam Fowler and Mark Cundari in the fold, will his offensive game be allowed to develop. I wonder what his upside is in his own zone as well, but there are some nice tools there, and for that reason he is an intriguing potential third rounder.

17) Jordan Szwarz

I have to admit I wish I saw more of Szwarz because in my limited viewings, I did not get a good read on the offensive skill others like Brock are convinced he has. While he bounced around in the offensive zone and reminded me a bit of Hutchings, in my viewings he did not create a ton. Moreover, I did not see a particularly well-rounded player, nor does his size suggest he has much potential in that regard. Therefore I am limited in what I can offer on Szwarz, and while I have seen hints at his offensive potential, he certainly never showed to me what others believe he is capable of doing. Of course, that seems to also be the knock on him, because he would have scored a fair bit more than he did if consistency was not a concern. I rank him here because I believe the upside of available prospects begins to drop off at this point.

18) Taylor Beck

Taylor Beck is a hard player for me to evaluate. As someone who is very focussed on skating, particularly the technical aspects, Beck is not my favourite prospect available. I have serious concerns that his skating, awkward as it is, and already average at best in the OHL, limits him a fair bit. On the other hand, he does have good size and decent offensive skill, particularly hand-eye-coordination. The question is whether or not Beck will be one of those players who does not look pretty, but nonetheless seems to get to where he needs to be in order to be effective. If I saw more top end offensive skills I would be more inclined towards the latter, but I am not sure that is the case. Although he is a hard working offensive forward, he does not seem particularly well developed as an all-round player. Beck is neither a strong defensive player, nor a bruising physical specimen, despite decent size and some willingness to use it to protect the puck offensively. His skating would be less of an issue if he projected better as a third line player at the next level, but I am not entirely satisfied of that yet. A team will likely draft him in the third round, maybe fourth, and I think will see him as a bit of a project, but it is always easier to be patient with those types of players if the effort level is already there.

19) Marcus Foligno

I have mixed feelings on Marcus Foligno, particularly because it is hard not to compare him to his brother. On the one hand he was generally unimpressive when I saw him this year, no matter the game or venue. He has good size, great height and shows good effort and board work, but he also showed little pure offensive talent and his skating concerned me. His stride is stiff, his agility is below average and he lacks acceleration at this point in time. On the other hand, I also appreciate that he is a very young player, almost a year younger than Nick was when he was drafted, and that he could very well improve in a lot of ways like his brother has. Nick has steadily improved his goal scoring, stickhandling and particularly skating since his rookie season in the OHL, and if Marcus can get on a similar curve, he could be a steal for whoever takes him. I do not really think he has the scoring line upside some believe Nick has, but I do think his bloodlines and raw physical skills make him an intriguing prospect.

20) Kyle Clifford

I think the U18s did a lot for Kyle Clifford’s stock heading in to the draft. At that tournament he thrived as a bang and crash role player, and showed enough to suggest he has the potential to play that role at the NHL level. He has good size, goes to the net, is a strong forechecker and throws his weight around with appreciable enthusiasm. Moreover, he seems to be on an upward development swing. Although his 16 goals this year were not stellar, when compared to his one single goal as a rookie last year, it is more notable. I do not see much in the way of skill or creativity that will translate to the NHL level, but size and grit often goes higher in NHL drafts than one would expect. He could very well go higher than a few players above him, but to me he is simply a good potential role player, a bit like Cody Bass a few years ago.

Honourable Mention:

Phil Varone : I was tempted to include Varone in my top 20, and even considered having him a fair bit higher. His impressive playoff performance should have raised his stock, although Central Scouting dropped him in their final rankings. Varone is a good offensive player who should be a very successful OHLer, but there is fair reason to doubt how he projects at the next level.

Tyler Randell : Part of me thinks Randell could end up being a late round find for some team. He has some offensive skill, decent size and was more productive when given more ice time in Kitchener, so it is entirely possible he breaks out when Kitchener takes off as anticipated next year. That being said, when I saw him he seemed intriguing and frustrating at best, lazy and undisciplined at worst.

William Wallen : Everybody has guys they cheer for a bit more just because they hope their support will help that underdog succeed, and few players fit that mold better than Wallen. Not only did he almost die this year, a near-tragedy detailed on this blog already, but Wallen as an undersized waterbug type of player, already has obstacles to overcome as a hockey player. I like Wallen’s skill level, tenacity, and technically-strong skating stride. With more lower body strength and improved skating he could be a steal.

Michael Zador : Hockey Canada can operate in strange ways, and they seemed to do just that picking Zador as the starter for the U18s and ignoring Stajcer altogether. The result for Zador was mixed, in my opinion. He was praised for putting up good numbers and at times making big stops, but I thought he looked shaky throughout the tournament. Some goals were weak and some of the big stops more impressive than they had to be. Jake Allen he is not, but he could go quite high on draft day because of the U18s regardless.

SK

Friday, April 10, 2009

On Scouting ...

Most "scouting services" don't know what they're doing
You know the ones I mean. Most of those that sell their product for money, especially the ones written by former HF-ers (Ed: HFBoards.com members).

Writing a good scouting report is not random - there has to be some methodology to it. Most folks don't get this. I'm sick and tried of reading crappy scouting reports, written by people who think they've become experts after lurking on hf for a couple of years.

I will tell you what a good scouting report is and there are basically two kinds (it can be broken down further, of course). The worst scouting reports can be exposed for being a confused jumble of the two or in worst cases neither. Some are bad, because they take one side and do an incompetent job.

Scouting report type #1: Ontology.

Folks who see players and write up these kinds of reports believe that they can get across a lot of information about a player simply by breaking down his game into a list of traits. Skating, shooting, vision, stickhandling, etc. It's a belief that scouting is mechanistic, and so are essentially people (in this case, hockey players). This sees an athlete as an abstraction that can be exposed, dissected and studied.

Scouting report type #2: Phenomenology.

This is the most difficult kind of a scouting report to master. It can be done very badly, but in best cases extremely well and those that are really well written are fun to read and personal. The scout in this case doesn't believe that a human being is a mere collage of particulars - rather, every single trait in a player is supported by another. An athlete in this case must be assessed holistically. Not only this, but the scouting report itself has to be written in terms of models and situations. Saying that a player is a good skater with excellent quickness is insufficient, because this doesn't illustrate a situation. A situation illustrates a scenario, in which phenomena occur that can be tied in to the discussed player in which a player performs a certain way holistically in relation to the ongoing play in relation to recalled (by scout) plays. The task of the scout is to abstract the situation and assess it from a personal standpoint. "Here's what the player did, here's how he did it and here's what I think about it. Here's what I can compare it to." "I think it worked because...", "I don't think it worked because..." Often the judgement is made through sheer intuition. The clever scout will incorporate his own experiences and recollections and compare the situation to other situations that he's seen, thus clariying his opinion on the player.

This kind of scouting is "implicate" - it functions on the belief that no player can be properly analyzed or understood without implicating the viewing scout's keen knowledge of hockey. By implicating himself into the scouting report, the scout also implicates the reader to identify and engage with what is written. Insight is fluid. Insight is dialogical. It should paint a picture in such a way that everyone who is exposed to it can react and creatively link the player and situation to other players and situations.

An example of pure scouting ontology is Central Scouting. So much so that it is almost exceedingly dry. Reading a CSS report, one cannot get any kind of handle on a player, because the blurb will merely list one trait after another. The writing isn't personal, the writing barely refers to hockey beyond the mechanistic, the writing often runs out of effective words to get its point across.

The best kind of ontology in scouting is extremely in-depth. I've seen this, but mostly in respect to tennis. I haven't seen a lot of good scouting of this kind in hockey. One could write a whole page about a player's wrist shot or first step, or whatever. Often it's quite fun to read and can be rewarding. In some cases the writing will flow towards analogy and thus become both phenomenology and narratology (the latter, because of the recall of stories; eg. "player x's backhand on this particular play reminded me of the time Bobby Orr scored a wrap-around goal on a backhand").

Close to pure phenomenology of scouting I think is redline report. I haven't read anything of theirs since about 2005, but from what I recall they're low on exact detail and high on 'the situation' stuff. They'll tell you what happened, when and how and how they felt about it. They'll tell you what it may mean in the long run. This kind of writing is hard to do, but they're good at it. It's personal. It doesn't matter whether it offends. Actually, it's better when it does. Sometimes it's too short - the worst offenses is when black humour replaces true insight, thus turning the player into a stereotype to caricature (eg. the sparkplug, the idiot, the dirty rotten bastard).

The important thing is that these two services at least know the difference. Central Scouting takes their explicit approach, because they feel they have to be objective. Or at least they have to appear objective. Writing their reports must be like writing for public service. It is nuanced nothing.

NHL scouts, the ones that do the real stuff, do both. I'm sure that every team has its own methodology, but eventually it breaks down into two things. You have to establish some basics first and that means separating the strengths from the weaknesses. These are, first of foremost, mechanistic. Bad skater? You may as well stop scouting the guy.

But if you keep scouting the guy, the rest of the work involves really heavy abstract work. You have to look for situations, illustrate them for the purposes of visualizing them later. This includes countless and countless examples of how the player handles himself in numerous situations and amounts to a very personal profile. And people are complex, often in ways they don't even themselves understand. Scouts want to know these kids better than these kids know themselves. And very often this requires quite a bit of intuition. Not luck, mind you. Intuition implicates personal experience. Intuition is when you have really studied the person.

So please do yourself a favour. Don't buy cheap shit like FC or whatever other stuff that is written by children with very little ideas or insights. You will know it when you see it - just read the reports and ask yourselves if they're written by a human being who truly cares about the player, or just some guy spewing cliches that have been said countless times.

Reposted, with permission, from a HockeyBroads.com post by Dr_Chimera.

Monday, April 6, 2009

M. Karlsson named to AHL All-Rookie Team

Senators defensive prospect Matthias Karlsson was named to the 2008-09 AHL All-Rookie roster, adding to the young Swedish blueliner's list of accomplishments this season. Karlsson was also named to the AHL All-Star game in January, and has recorded 50 points through 70 games this season with the Binghamton Senators.

James Mirtle claims that Karlsson "seems a lock to start in Ottawa next season", though this opinion won't be confirmed by many observers with closer ties to the Senators; even with his surprising performance in the AHL, Matthias Karlsson still stands about 9th on the Senators depth chart and will have to offer an outstanding training camp, and perhaps hope for a trade or two, in order to see regular NHL time by next year. There have also been whispers that Karlsson might be returning to Sweden next season, though the validity of these claims are entirely unknown.

It could also be possible that Mirtle was inadvertently confusing Matthias with the other young Swedish defenseman, Erik Karlsson, whose name has also been penned into Ottawa's 09-10 lineup by some.

No other Binghamton Senators made the all-star teams but it isn't absurd to suggest Brian Elliott was in solid contention for a first all-star team slot before being called up to Ottawa in early January.

Saturday, March 28, 2009

Prospect Update

SilverSevenSens has a prospect update.

It covers Erik Condra (NCAA), Louie Caporusso (NCAA), Patrick Wiercioch (NCAA), Craig Schira (WHL), and Jim O'Brien (WHL).

Friday, March 6, 2009

Roundtable #1 - Erik Karlsson in 2009-10, Part I


A selection of Ottawa Prospector contributors participated in this inaugural roundtable. To participate in future discussions or suggest topics of debate, please visit the Ottawa Senators Forum at Hockey Broads.

The background
: Senators 2008 first round draft pick Erik Karlsson has shown plenty of positive signs in the months since his selection, finding a regular role with the Frolunda Indians of the Swedish Elite League and winning top defenseman honours at the 2009 World Juniors. He has a tremendous offensive skillset and a mature understanding of the game which belies his age. Still, his lack of size and strength might remain impediments to quick ascension in the pro ranks. While the Senators have made some moves to address their puck-moving needs on the backend, Karlsson seems an ideal remedy for many of their blueline woes and there are indications the franchise might want to speed his development by bringing him into Ottawa next fall.

The debate: How should the Ottawa Senators handle Erik Karlsson next season and going forward? Allow him become a confident star player in the SEL, gaining valuable experience? Convince him to come to Binghamton to focus mostly on training and conditioning elements? Bring him into Ottawa as a PP specialist, with access to world-class training regimen and mentors? Something else altogether? Consider these questions and more and share your thoughts in a roundtable format.

This part of the roundtable addresses the most popular conclusion, that Karlsson is not yet ready for the NHL and should remain in the SEL for at least one more season. Different conclusions will be broached in ensuing posts.

Joe Sakic:
In my mind the best path for development for Erik is to stay another season in the SEL (assuming he doesn't come in and flat out wow every one next year - like M.E. Vlasic did in SJ).

I see patience as the one common denominator that all strong drafting NHL clubs have, especially those with contributing youngsters. For Erik Karlsson, I think this should be the team’s approach. There's no doubting that from a skills perspective he's got enough to at least be a number 2 in the NHL. For Erik, he really needs to develop that physical strength that any dman needs to be able withstand the rigours of an 82+ game schedule as well as the mental strength that goes along with being a top two guy on any NHL club. Because Murray has done a fairly decent job of building some organizational depth on the backend (adding Kuba, Picard, and Campoli) I think the Sens can afford to be patient with Erik and let him develop that physical and mental strength so that when he dawns a Sens uniform he's really ready to be an impact player.

Giving Erik another year in Frolunda, where he becomes a go to guy on the back end playing key minutes in key situations would absolutely be, in my mind, the right thing to do. This will allow him to get experience being a number one/two type dman on a team where winning is expected, in a city where hockey is king. Couple the added responsibilities on the ice, with a physical regimen that can be tracked and monitored by the big club, Erik can continue to mature physically in a far less physically demanding league (the SEL vs. AHL). By affording him that added year of development, Erik could then come to NA when he's 20 and be in a better position to succeed both physically and mentally because of the added experience - assuming he continues his development path, he'd be that much more confident in himself and his game and be able to translate that confidence into results. I'd then let him ply his trade in Bingo for a year (again assuming the club feels he's not there yet), where he'd be introduced to NA style hockey on a smaller ice surface. In Bingo, I'd have him on the ice on the PP, SH and in all key ES situations so that he can continue to learn and grow and adapt his game to fit the NA style. This would also give him another year to physically get stronger preparing him for the NHL. If it's obvious that he's too advanced for the A I'd bring him up BUT not before at the very least the All Star break.

Erik's a great talent and I think if the organization can be patient with him and not rush him, he'll definitely be a difference maker for this team for years to come.


sensdiehard:
I hope we don’t rush him. He stills looks young. As Jacques Martin might say, a boy still, not quite ready for a man’s league. When he is clearly ready to take a lead role on this team, he should come over.

As Holland was quoted to suggest recently, and as the old Montreal dynasty teams used to always live by, prospects develop as long as they need in the minors and don’t come up until they are ready. That has been the hallmark of excellent organizations in the past. Hopefully we have the luxury of doing it properly too.



zamboner:
In ideal conditions, Karlsson would get another year with Frolunda, but with twice as much ice-time. He started the year strongly, wowing us with his game against the Senators in the pre-season. Following that, he was hot and cold with Frolunda, and was prone to bad defensive play. A huge WJC helped put any fears to rest, but Karlsson remains low on the club team's depth list.

Karlsson has the skill, but lacks the strength and size to step onto an NHL rink. He'd probably be a Brendan Bell right now. Think about it, Bell would have been the MVP of the WJC had he been there. I don't know why people think Karlsson would step in and immediately be a real player in the NHL.

However, the situation the Senators find themselves in is NOT ideal. They're in desperate need of a play-maker on the back-end, as the defensive corps is skilled, but lacks any kind of offensive creativity. Karlsson has a mind unlike any other defensemen within the Senators organization, and Murray will likely find that mere fact very appealing. He's got to find a way to improve the blue-line without trading away any more forward depth.

So, he should play another year in the SEL (or AHL, but I doubt it), but will likely be given a big chance to make the team next year.


Pothier:
The best thing for Karlsson's develop at this point, is to let him have one more year with Frolunda. Let him dominate the SEL, while getting bigger and stronger, taking on a larger role on the team, and maybe even working on becoming a better all around defenseman.

Keeping him with Frolunda pretty much guarantees that Karlsson will be playing, and most likely being the captain for the 2010 Sweden WJC team that will take to the ice in December. He had an outstanding tournament this year, so it's scary to think that he could do it all over again, with the chance of being even more dominant this time around, and maybe even win the Gold with Team Sweden.

The Ottawa Senators already have 8 defensemen under contract for next season; this really does not leave any room for Karlsson, especially since 2005 draft selection Brian Lee, another offensive defenseman, is still waiting for a real shot, so one would assume next year is Lee's shot. I don't feel Erik would benefit from being a 7th defenseman/PP specialist as much as he would from another year overseas.

In conclusion, I really feel Erik would truly benefit from another year in the SEL with the Indians, and another World Junior Championship. One would assume that with only 2 defensemen under contract for the 2010/11 season, this will be Karlsson's time to shine in a Senators uniform.


mayoradamwest:
Karlsson looks like he's going to be something special. It'd be nice if we could get him over for the preseason, camp and such but I'd be really hesitant to play him next year. There's no reason to rush the development of what could be the best prospect the organization has produced in years. Unfortunately, we need to have some patience with him. We could just get Mattias Karlsson to change his name to Eric to energize and confuse the fan base. Unless E. Karlsson adds serious muscle in the offseason I can't see how he'd be a better option than what we have already. Even if he is better overall (or is going to be) than most of our D corps, he doesn't need to be thrown into a team with a ton of question marks, especially considering the fan expectations that would be heaped on him by the intellectually stimulating Ottawa sports media. Give him another year, let him play out his time in Sweden, and then bring him over when he's ready to contribute immediately.If Karlsson comes over he could be a PP specialist over here but he wouldn't be able to play a full game and may find it more difficult to round out aspects of his game. If Karlsson stays and commits to his Swedish team, Frolunda, he will get the highest amount of minutes he needs to ply his trade and learn the game. Of course Ottawa's lack lustre back end seems to suggest that we should rush him over and get any help we can use back there.

There is also a third option of signing Karlsson to a contract over here getting him into some game time and then loaning him back to Frolunda if or when it doesn't work out. This has been met with some success in some other Swedish prospects in the game today as well, and is something that Karlsson is willing to entertain. I think when all is said and done I would let Karlsson play another year in Sweden. It will allow him to mature his game, keeps a good working relationship with a Swedish team that could be valuable in the future, and to me seems like the best option. We shouldn't allow our impatience to rush him into the game and possible harm his development.


sensens:
I'm not surprised most of the comments have been fairly consistent, as I don't think it's much of a debate - it makes absolutely no sense to jeopardize the development of the team's most important prospect in years. Even if he was rushed, it would be borderline delusional for the team to assume that his immediate impact would necessarily exceed what is already provided by Picard, Lee, and Campoli. If the team is in such a dire spot that this move is considered its best option, I think that would be the final indication that far more serious moves are immediately necessary.


discostu:
I think the decision on Karlsson is pretty simple and straightforward. He's obviously a very talented young defenceman, with a great head for the game. But, he is undersized, and, needs to get bigger before he should be here. Another year in the SEL seems like a no-brainer. He needs time to put on some size, and, to adapt to playing with that size. He could theoretically bulk up this summer, but, then, he'd be adapting to a new country and new league, while he's also adapting his game that goes with that added size.

Let him grow in the SEL for at least another year. He'll get the ice time opportunities there. Have Sens trainers track his progress, and see where he is a year from now.


Hossa:
Personally I am not satisfied in the least that Erik Karlsson is ready for the NHL next year, nor do I believe that at this point in time it's in his or the team's best interest to force the issue. The reasons for this are numerous, and some have been outlined by others.

For one, with several third pairing blueliners under contract heading in to camp, I do not feel desperate to play Karlsson next year. Brian Lee, Chris Campoli and Alexandre Picard are all young, looking to establish themselves, and have varying degrees of offensive upside. Moreover, they are important assets for the club, whether because they were a high draft pick (Lee) or the key component in a trade that saw a major asset go the other way (Picard and Campoli). It's important for the organization to gain a better perspective of what these players are capable of in the immediate future and whether or not they should be in the long-term plans of the club alongside Karlsson. The fact that all three are restricted free agents in the summer of 2010 only adds to the necessity of answering those questions next year. At that point Bryan Murray and company will be in a position to evaluate which, if any, of those blueliners are part of the solution, and the contracts will be structured as such. It's important to stagger contracts and receive contributions from young players in a proper manner.

I am also not entirely sure if I see a fit for somebody to play with Karlsson next year. Although I see the value in putting Karlsson with a veteran like Jason Smith, my biggest hesitation is that they are both right-handed shots. With some players that would not be a big deal, but Jason Smith's already porous puck-handling is only worse in the rare opportunity that he has to move the puck from his wrong side. The other option would be for Karlsson to play on his opposite side, but that is not ideal for a young blueliner, particularly one whose game is predicated on handling the puck and jumping in from the back-end. If we do decide that Jason Smith's hefty contract is worth retaining for another season, then I believe he should be utilized to complement Picard or Campoli, both left-handed shots with offensive ability but significant room for improvement defensively. In short, there are circumstantial reasons to hold off on putting Karlsson in to the line-up.

Even if the Senators' blueline was shaping up differently, I would not be convinced that Karlsson is ready for the NHL quite yet. It is well established that he will never be a big player, and his lower body is not built in a manner which leaves him much room for growth in the strength department. He will never be built like a fire hydrant, propelled by two tree trunks for legs, like several players below 6'0" such as Brian Rafalski or Martin St. Louis. What Karlsson will do is use his sense of timing, intelligence and awareness to play defensively, but he has not consistently been able to do so this year in the Swedish Elite League. He is far too important to this organization to rush his development and rob him of the necessary time to develop as a complete player. Playing in the SEL for another full season would allow him the opportunity to play against men and professionals, and grow to be a complete player at that level. Inevitably he will need some time to adjust at the NHL level, but that does not in any way mean his development needs to be so heavily dependent on playing against the best players in the world in Ottawa.

What I would do though is try hard to get Karlsson signed as soon as possible. Ideally I would bring him over for rookie camp and training camp, on the agreement that he will return to his club team in Sweden for the balance of the season. What this would allow the Senators is a modicum of control over his season though, because this plan only has merit if Karlsson's season in Sweden goes as planned. In order to develop in that league, he needs consistent ice time and a good situation, and with a contract signed, Ottawa would have a role to play should things go awry. On the chance that his season does not go as well as hoped, that would leave the Senators with options in terms of changing course.

This is what the Flames were able to do by sending Mikael Backlund to the Kelowna Rockets of the WHL in the middle of this year. After an impressive turn at the World Junior Championships, the Flames decided that they were not satisfied with his development in Sweden. Instead, they gave Backlund one game in the NHL and then reassigned him to a good Kelowna team for the balance of the season, where he has put up a point per game and played alongside other top prospects like Jamie Benn, Colin Long and Tyler Myers. Obviously it remains to be seen how well this works out for Backlund in the end, but the important thing for Calgary was that those first two seasons after a player is drafted are incomparably important for a player's development. Ensuring that Karlsson's season next year does not veer off track is essential, and should be the top priority at this point in time.

Roundtable #1 - Erik Karlsson in 2009-10, Part II

This part of the roundtable addresses the undecided - those who feel Karlsson's status next year is heavily dependent on his off-season training progress, on the Senators defensive depth next season, and multiple other factors such as whether Karlsson is even interested in leaving Sweden yet. The viewpoints are further outlined:

RTWAP:
There are some basic principles that seem to be shared by good organizations. Don't rush the prospect. Don't stall the prospect without ice time or opportunity. Don't let the prospect stay in a poor development environment.

It is difficult to know how these basic principles will be applied because any decisions the Senators make are going to be based on information and judgments that we're not privy to. But it might be helpful to identify some of those underlying factors.

Is Erik developing properly in the SEL? This is mainly a question about ice time, opportunity to play in the right situations, physical training, confidence building and fundamental approach to the game. If I had to guess, I'd say that Frolunda is doing fine in this regard.

Could Erik handle a jump directly this summer to the NHL? Are his skills sufficiently developed? Has his defensive game matured enough that he won't get buried as a PP specialist with little ES opportunity? Has his strength improved enough? Can he handle the transition to NA rink size and game style?

Does Erik want to come to the NHL next season? This one is hard to say. I think he's expressed a preference for playing a couple years in the SEL, but that was last fall. And he may just have been careful. It could be embarrassing if he publicly set a goal of making the NHL next season and then wasn't even invited over. Much better to state publicly that he'll stay in the SEL until he's ready and then wait for the team to ask him to come over. It's also a better mental approach. Just focus on the team he's on and the games in front of him, not the larger goal. I think that unless the Senators make a strong pitch to bring him over this summer, he will be happy to spend another season with Frolunda. Another factor is that he would probably prefer to avoid a full season in the AHL. If playing his 20th year in the SEL instead of the AHL, provides almost the same benefit and he spends most of his next season as an NHLer then there wouldn't be much benefit to spending a season on the buses with Binghamton.

Will the Senators have room? Pierre McGuire stated on the Team1200 on March 5th that the team is not done with their defense and will continue to make changes this summer. As it currently stands, there are 3 young defensemen with offensive skill in Campoli, Lee, and Picard, with Kuba providing veteran presence. Given that management has identified all of these players as bona fide NHLers, and the fact that the team has 3 defensive veteran D-men, it would be hard to imagine the team slotting Karlsson into the lineup as a #8, or even a #7 defenseman. But if the team is able to sign or acquire a true #1 then players like Smith and Volchenkov might leave to free up salary. Given a situation like that, Karlsson could find himself sharing #6/#7 duties with Alex Picard.


SensGuy:
Is it possible to withhold my decision until after the off-season? Because to me, the only thing holding Karlsson back from playing in the NHL is his size. If he's able to put on a decent amount of weight this summer, then I believe he could play at the NHL level. Would that be the best thing for his development? Who knows, but I think he has the skills and confidence to play in the NHL, but he doesn't have the size. I don't think he'll be getting any bigger playing in Sweden and against Swedish players, so if he puts on some muscle this summer, I have no issue bringing him over.

That leads to the question, do we even have room for him? Murray is going to have to get rid of some dead weight this summer, mainly in Smith, Schubert and possibly Picard, otherwise Karlsson won't get the playing time he needs.


Emo:
I'm a firm believer in putting players in a position to succeed, a position where their skills are maximized. Ottawa should give him every opportunity to excel next season in training camp. Play him in situations you want him to dominate years form now. Play him with high-level talent. If he blows you away, keep him and keep pushing him and teaching him all the while putting him in the best position to succeed.

I don't expect him to blow us away and earn a spot next year, but I think handling him how I suggested will be the most beneficial. This is the first elite-talent we've had in a while and I hope we maximize it. Put him in a real position to succeed and when he likely does not make the team, he should have a clear idea of what's expected of him and how to get there.

How he'll handle physical play at his current size is a legit concern. If we don't want him in the NHL next season due to size, do we really want him in the AHL which is rougher and more physical league than the NHL? I'd rather he not go through another season in Sweden where he's the sixth or seventh d-man, but if he's going to get primo minutes in that league, then I think it's probably the best place for him. I would hope that the Sens will tailor a plan for him to gain size; one that he can stick to while playing so far away from Ottawa.


DaveMatthew:
If he comes to the rookie and regular camps and proceeds to wow everyone ala Martin Havlat in 2000, I'd put him on the team.

I wouldn't do it simply because we have a current need in that role. No sense screwing up one of our most promising prospects in years when we have Picard, Smith and M. Karlsson all capable of filling the #6 role. Maybe they won't be as skilled, but E. Karlsson won't make or break this team next year anyways.


A further position, though endorsed by few, considers placing him in the AHL next season, primarily to address his poor strength:

Ricard_Persson:
Clay Aiken is better built than Brian Lee, and Lee takes a beating and gets bounced around this year. Lee is bigger and stronger and quite a few years older than Karlsson.

I would say that Karlsson in the NHL next year is a pipe dream. I can't see him being ready, and think a year in the AHL would do him wonders.


Senfanman88:
Erik Karlsson is in a very unique situation. There's many ways to go with him and they all have their pros and cons.

Letting him stay in the SEL could do a variety of things in itself. He could take over and be a mega-star, build his confidence and refine his skill set. A downside to this is that if he doesn't dominate, or his skill doesn't translate perfectly, his confidence could take a nose dive and the experiment could end before it started. Erik, to me, seems like the kind of guy who knows he is great and if he isn't as great as he feels (relative to NHLers or even SELers) it could be bad.

The AHL is the next idea. This gives him a shot at NHL speed and conditioning (82+ games) and would be great to develop the areas he is lacking in, such as strength and grit. The overall skill in the AHL is close to the SEL but Erik will be adjusting and the confidence factor will be buffered as he shouldn't be expecting to be great in a new league with a new style. An additional upside is the chance to play in the NHL if he's deserving or the big Sens have injuries. The downside is that he gets less money and is far from home, but he'll have to make that change sooner or later.

Straight to the NHL would be trial by fire. I'd be wary to send the Sens best prospect in years straight into the NHL like that, especially if he isn't big enough. This could be the ultimate waste if he gets beat down consistently while seeing minimal ice time. However, with smart coaching and smart utilization (PP and 3rd pairing) he could really shine at the biggest level and that would go very far.

Personally, for the team, the AHL would be best as it combines the best of the SEL and NHL opportunities. I can not blame Erik if he doesn't want to go there as he would get less money and be far from home. I really hope he comes over this summer and trains with guys like Fisher, Bass and/or Neil (if he is here) and bulks up like Zubov did. I hope that in doing this, he'd grow to crave Ottawa and accept the AHL due to the chance to get called up and make his mark.

That being said, a guy like Erik, with his natural talent and strong mental game will succeed regardless, if he wants it. When and how he will succeed depends on how he is handled next season but long term it shouldn't be the deciding factor of his NHL success.